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docs: record the deferred native-toolchain workstream
The config comment referencing this file was dangling. Captures the
twelve gcc-native and four rust-native findings so the work is not lost:
the GCC 13 -> 16 move and why (char8_t, libcody's C++11-only probe, the
cpuid macros GCC 15/16 removed, then an ICE), the stale same_as symlink,
the gnu17 exemption, the missing relibc dependency, the getopt.h
shadowing, and the fnmatch extensions implemented in the fork.

Records two things explicitly because they are easy to get wrong again:

- The old 'Redox C++/pthread header gaps' justification was false.
  llvm-native cooks clean in isolation; it only failed in parallel builds
  because of a cookbook race on shared staging paths. A build-system bug
  had been misdiagnosed as a porting gap and used to exclude a required
  package.

- My own 'relibc fenv.h is a stub' diagnosis was also false. relibc
  delegates to openlibm_fenv.h which defines both types; the header just
  was not reaching the sysroot. Generalised into a rule: an undeclared
  identifier against relibc is more often a header-path problem than a
  missing implementation.

Also notes the exact stopping point (host libstdc++ headers leaking into
a target compile), the re-enable procedure, and the advice to diagnose
with COOKBOOK_COOK_JOBS=1 since several wrong turns came from attributing
one recipe's error to another in the interleaved parallel log.
2026-08-03 19:44:49 +03:00

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Native Toolchain Workstream — gcc-native / rust-native

Status: DEFERRED. Explicit operator decision, 2026-08-03: "Treat gcc-native/rust-native as a separate workstream, explicitly deferred by me, for now." Scope: local/recipes/dev/gcc-native/, local/recipes/dev/rust-native/. Not deferred: binutils-native and llvm-native build and remain in config/redbear-full.toml. llvm-native is required, not optional — it supplies the host LLVM dev tree that libclc and Mesa's iris/radeonsi CLC path consume.

Related: local/patches/gcc-redox-port/README.md, VENDORED-LIBC-FORK.md, FORK-BUMP-PATCHING-POLICY.md, LOCAL-FORK-SUPREMACY-POLICY.md.


What this workstream is

A toolchain that runs on Redox and targets Redox — gcc, cargo/rustc executing inside the OS. Distinct from the cross toolchain in prefix/, which runs on the Linux host and is what actually builds the distribution.

That distinction matters for prioritisation: the cross toolchain is done (GCC 16.1.0, libstdc++.so.6.0.35, working std::ranges::to) and is what compiled every other package. Nothing in the desktop path — Mesa/virgl, Wayland, Qt6, KF6, SDDM — depends on the native toolchain.

Why it is deferred, honestly

Not because it is unimportant, and not for the reason the old config gave.

The previous exclusion said "suppressed: Redox C++/pthread header gaps; not needed for greeter proof". That was wrong on both counts. llvm-native has no header gap at all — it cooks clean in isolation, and only failed in parallel builds because of a cookbook race on shared staging paths (fixed; see src/bin/repo.rs recipe_dir_lock). A real build-system bug had been misdiagnosed as a porting gap and used to justify excluding a required package. Restoring these packages is how the twelve defects below were found at all — including that redbear-iwlwifi had never compiled since the commit that broke it.

The deferral is instead a scope judgement: making GCC build itself for Redox is a genuine porting project. Upstream Redox has only ever shipped GCC 8.2.0 and 13.2.0; nobody has done GCC 16 for this target. Every fix so far has revealed the next layer, and the remaining failures are header-model conflicts (GCC's internal headers vs relibc's, host vs target) that want someone working through GCC's cross-build header model as a whole rather than patching incrementally.

gcc-native — moved to GCC 16, twelve findings

The recipe now builds GCC 16.1.0 from local/recipes/dev/gcc16/source (upstream 16.1.0 + local/patches/gcc-redox-port/), not GCC 13.

Why the move happened

Building GCC 13 with the GCC 16 cross compiler is three major versions of drift and is not a supported configuration. Three fixes landed before it became untenable:

# Defect Resolution
1 char8_t. GCC 16 defaults to C++20, which changed u8"" from const char[] to const char8_t[]; libcody uses them throughout (~100 diagnostics) pin the C++ standard
2 libcody's configure contains #if __cplusplus > 201103 / #error "C++11 is required" — it rejects anything newer than C++11 -std=gnu++11, which also fixes #1 (no char8_t before C++20)
3 bit_AVX512PF / ER / 4VNNIW / 4FMAPS / PREFETCHWT1 undeclared — GCC 15/16 removed these macros for withdrawn ISA extensions, but GCC 13's cpuinfo.h needs them put GCC 13's own cpuid.h ahead of the toolchain's include path

Then GCC 16 ICEd compiling GCC 13's own libstdc++:

libstdc++-v3/libsupc++/eh_call.cc:39:1: internal compiler error:
in gimple_build_eh_must_not_throw

An ICE is where flag-tweaking stops being a legitimate answer. Those three fixes remain in recipes/dev/gcc13/recipe.toml — that recipe still builds the GCC 13 cross toolchain and they are correct there.

After the move to GCC 16

# Defect Resolution
4 The same_as symlink source -> recipes/dev/gcc13/source survived the recipe edit, so the "GCC 16" build was still compiling GCC 13 sources removed; now -> ../gcc16/source
5 gcc13 / gcc13.cxx dependencies build the very compiler being replaced dropped
6 unknown type name 'bool' — GCC 16's sources are C23, where bool is a keyword, but the cookbook pins -std=gnu17 tree-wide for the C17-era recipes exempt this recipe from the pin
7 cannot guess versionsame_as used to supply it; a path source gives the cookbook nothing to infer from explicit [package].version
8 'fenv_t' has not been declared in '::' — dropping gcc13 also removed what transitively staged relibc's headers, leaving the sysroot with no libc headers at all explicit relibc dependency
9 _getopt_internal undeclared — libiberty needs GCC's own include/getopt.h, which declares that GNU-internal symbol; relibc's getopt.h was shadowing it GCC's include/ ahead of the sysroot
10 FNM_FILE_NAME / FNM_LEADING_DIR undeclared — GNU extensions genuinely absent from relibc implemented in the relibc fork (see below)

Correction worth preserving

Finding #8 was initially misdiagnosed as "relibc's fenv.h is a 3-line stub". It is not. relibc's fenv.h correctly delegates to openlibm_fenv.h, which dispatches on __x86_64__ to openlibm_fenv_amd64.h where fenv_t (line 48) and fexcept_t (line 50) are both defined — and relibc stages all of those headers. The header was simply never reaching this recipe's sysroot. A commit message asserting a relibc fenv gap was wrong and is corrected in the commit that follows it.

The lesson generalises to most of this list: an "undeclared identifier" against relibc is more often a header-path problem than a missing implementation. Check whether the header reaches the compiler before concluding relibc is incomplete.

Real relibc gap that was fixed

FNM_FILE_NAME and FNM_LEADING_DIR are now implemented in local/sources/relibc/src/header/fnmatch/mod.rs (pushed on submodule/relibc). FNM_FILE_NAME is the GNU synonym for FNM_PATHNAME, so an alias. FNM_LEADING_DIR is real behaviour — the pattern may match a leading directory, so foo matches foo/bar — implemented by trying the exact match then each prefix ending before a /. Declaring the flag without honouring it would have been a stub. Its value (16) is the next free bit in relibc's own numbering, not glibc's.

Where it stopped

/usr/include/c++/16/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bits/os_defines.h:44:
error: missing binary operator before token '('

The host's libstdc++ headers are being pulled into a target compile — __GLIBC_PREREQ evaluated where there is no glibc. A host/target header leak, and the natural next thing to investigate.

rust-native — four findings, one open

# Defect Resolution
1 nix 0.30.1 incompatible with libc 0.2.178: declares SaFlags_t = c_ulong while libc has sa_flags/SA_* as c_int (E0308 both directions) nix 0.31 fixed it; ctrlc 3.5 requires nix "0.31"
2 in-tree miri pinned nix = "0.30.1" and held the broken version in the graph bumped; carried as local/patches/rust/01-miri-nix-0.31.patch
3 CLD_EXITED / P_ALL etc. not in crate libc — its Redox bindings never exposed the waitid surface relibc implements, still absent in 0.2.189 vendored fork, see VENDORED-LIBC-FORK.md
4 llvm/Config/llvm-config.h: No such filellvm-native.dev (which stages the headers) missing from dependencies added

Open: five error: unreachable 'pub' item diagnostics, crate not yet identified. Not investigated.

Re-enabling

The recipes are fixed and committed, not reverted. To resume:

  1. In config/redbear-full.toml, change gcc-native = "ignore" and rust-native = "ignore" back to = {}.
  2. ./local/scripts/build-redbear.sh --upstream redbear-full.
  3. Expect to resume at the host/libstdc++ header leak above.

Diagnose failures in isolationCOOKBOOK_COOK_JOBS=1 ./target/release/repo cook <recipe>. The aggregate build multiplexes output from parallel cooks, and several wrong turns in this workstream came from attributing one recipe's error to another in the interleaved log.

Upstream-reportable

Two findings belong upstream rather than in Red Bear indefinitely:

  • The libc crate's Redox module lacks the waitid surface (idtype_t, P_*, CLD_*, waitid) that relibc implements. Retirement procedure in VENDORED-LIBC-FORK.md.
  • relibc's missing GNU fnmatch extensions — now fixed in the fork, and worth offering upstream.